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Re: why i cant get job?

#13 Ungelesener Beitrag von MonsieurPoot » 16.10.2010 09:47

Nope, I guess Norman is right.
You can set the amount of available memory that BOINC is allowed to use in the preferences. If the value is set to 50%, that ("cmsearch needs 3814.70 MB RAM but only 2031.23 MB is available for use.") would be the error message you get.
Some WUs are in need of a lot of RAM and if only those are in the server's queue at the time your hosts request new work, you will not be delivered any.
In this case you can either wait for smaller WUs to be queued (which normally does not take that long) or allow BOINC to use more memory.

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Re: why i cant get job?

#14 Ungelesener Beitrag von Norman » 16.10.2010 09:52

that's right. 32-bit systems cant handle more then 4GB, but the WU need only ~3.8gb ram.
your system is also using too a lot of RAM and other applications, so you have not enough ram free for crunch this type of WU. (2031.23 MB is available for use.)
so you can never get a WU before other ( lesser ram hungry ) WU are released/ready.
do you have no workunits more in queque ?

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Re: why i cant get job?

#15 Ungelesener Beitrag von ftpd » 16.10.2010 10:56

Norman,

On one machine i have only one RNA-job and 1 GPUgrid-job running and this machine refuses to download any other RNA-jobs.
I have no other CPU-jobs waiting.

Ton

PS More than 3,8 GB free memory availabel on a XP machine is almost impossible.

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Re: why i cant get job?

#16 Ungelesener Beitrag von Norman » 16.10.2010 12:05

PS More than 3,8 GB free memory availabel on a XP machine is almost impossible.
yes, I know and that's the issue why you cant get a job atm because no free memory is availaible on this maschine ! ;)
boinc say: "NO!"

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Re: why i cant get job?

#17 Ungelesener Beitrag von MonsieurPoot » 16.10.2010 14:12

Norman hat geschrieben:boinc say: "NO!"
Though it is totally off topic, this so reminds me of the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly3Ew3wQ4PA

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Re: why i cant get job?

#18 Ungelesener Beitrag von Michael H.W. Weber » 16.10.2010 14:35

Ton,
we are currently sending out many of the (yet unfinished) large Intron_gpI WUs. Indeed, for these we have further improved the delivery seetings to protect machines with low RAM from getting these. As you see, these settings now work well because we assigned 4 GB of RAM to these WUs. So, with 4 GB of total RAM (minus whatever your OS will use) you will not get these anymore. However, there are many more in the pipeline and your machine should get smaller ones quite soon. In fact, I am a bit suprised that our server does not immediately deliver smaller ones to you because there are enough on hold (a third of a million WUs in stock right now). I will ask Yoyo to take a look into this. Just make sure, you have enough HD space available, because that would be another reason for the server not to send out much to you...

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Re: why i cant get job?

#19 Ungelesener Beitrag von ftpd » 16.10.2010 18:21

Michael,

Thanks for the reply. I think this kind of WU should go to the 64 bit machines.

But for now i can download again on at least one machine.

All machines have a min. of 150 gb free of hdd. Enough?

Good results with the extra servers?

Nice weekend,

Ton

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Re: why i cant get job?

#20 Ungelesener Beitrag von Michael H.W. Weber » 16.10.2010 19:31

ftpd hat geschrieben:Michael,

Thanks for the reply.
You are welcome. :D
ftpd hat geschrieben:I think this kind of WU should go to the 64 bit machines.
Well, that is not strictly necessary but now of course indirectly is the case except for 32-bit machines where - for whatever reason :bugeye: - people have installed more than 4 GB of RAM.
ftpd hat geschrieben:All machines have a min. of 150 gb free of hdd. Enough?
That is by far enough. Things become critical when the free HD space is going down below approx. 5 GB.
ftpd hat geschrieben:Good results with the extra servers?
Well, the P4 single core will not really help much as a server but we will try to use it for WU preparation. The Dell server will be used after Yoyos return from his business trip. But it will certainly help us.

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Re: why i cant get job?

#21 Ungelesener Beitrag von ftpd » 23.10.2010 17:53

Michael H.W. Weber hat geschrieben:Ton,
we are currently sending out many of the (yet unfinished) large Intron_gpI WUs. Indeed, for these we have further improved the delivery seetings to protect machines with low RAM from getting these. As you see, these settings now work well because we assigned 4 GB of RAM to these WUs. So, with 4 GB of total RAM (minus whatever your OS will use) you will not get these anymore. However, there are many more in the pipeline and your machine should get smaller ones quite soon. In fact, I am a bit suprised that our server does not immediately deliver smaller ones to you because there are enough on hold (a third of a million WUs in stock right now). I will ask Yoyo to take a look into this. Just make sure, you have enough HD space available, because that would be another reason for the server not to send out much to you...

Michael.
Michael,

The same problem again this weekend with all my connected machines. Still the same problem?

Good weekend,

Ton van Born (ftpd)

PS Skgiven (Kev) let them run!!!

ftpd

Re: why i cant get job?

#22 Ungelesener Beitrag von ftpd » 28.10.2010 11:19

28-10-2010 12:10:30 RNA World Starting task cms_GA[e1-5MB_Lin64f]_Plasmodium-falciparum-3D7_AL844508.lin.EMBL_RF00230_T-box_1285425963_58627_0 using cmsearch version 20
28-10-2010 12:10:35 RNA World Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
28-10-2010 12:10:35 RNA World Requesting new tasks for CPU
28-10-2010 12:10:36 RNA World Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28-10-2010 12:10:36 RNA World Message from server: No work sent
28-10-2010 12:10:36 RNA World Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
28-10-2010 12:11:03 RNA World work fetch suspended by user
28-10-2010 12:12:14 RNA World work fetch resumed by user
28-10-2010 12:12:18 RNA World Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
28-10-2010 12:12:18 RNA World Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
28-10-2010 12:12:19 RNA World Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28-10-2010 12:12:19 RNA World Message from server: No work sent
28-10-2010 12:12:19 RNA World Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
28-10-2010 12:13:02 RNA World update requested by user
28-10-2010 12:13:05 RNA World Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
28-10-2010 12:13:05 RNA World Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
28-10-2010 12:13:06 RNA World Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28-10-2010 12:13:06 RNA World Message from server: No work sent
28-10-2010 12:13:06 RNA World Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
28-10-2010 12:14:22 RNA World Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
28-10-2010 12:14:22 RNA World Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
28-10-2010 12:14:23 RNA World Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
28-10-2010 12:14:26 RNA World Started download of cms_GA[e30-50MB_Lin64s]_Oryza-sativa-Indica-Group_CM000133.lin.EMBL_RF00702_mir-182_1284912637_54485-in.zip
28-10-2010 12:14:26 RNA World Started download of cms_GA[e30-50MB_Lin64s]_Oryza-sativa-Indica-Group_CM000133.lin.EMBL_RF00702_mir-182_1284912637_54485-job.xml
28-10-2010 12:14:27 RNA World Finished download of cms_GA[e30-50MB_Lin64s]_Oryza-sativa-Indica-Group_CM000133.lin.EMBL_RF00702_mir-182_1284912637_54485-job.xml
28-10-2010 12:14:33 RNA World Finished download of cms_GA[e30-50MB_Lin64s]_Oryza-sativa-Indica-Group_CM000133.lin.EMBL_RF00702_mir-182_1284912637_54485-in.zip
28-10-2010 12:14:39 RNA World Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
28-10-2010 12:14:39 RNA World Requesting new tasks for CPU and GPU
28-10-2010 12:14:41 RNA World Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
28-10-2010 12:14:41 RNA World Message from server: No work sent
28-10-2010 12:14:41 RNA World Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)


Any reason why?

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Re: why i cant get job?

#23 Ungelesener Beitrag von yoyo » 30.10.2010 08:38

Is it better now?
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Re: why i cant get job?

#24 Ungelesener Beitrag von ftpd » 30.10.2010 08:54

YoYo,

Yesterdayevening i got 39 WU's.

Thanks,

Ton

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