ECM - huge task duration

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ECM - huge task duration

#1 Ungelesener Beitrag von DrLen » 08.10.2023 21:02

Hello there,

since I´m quite new to this project, first of I want to greet everyone and say hello to the whole community :wave:
I´ve done a couple of workunits in the past days, most ecm and some for the sievert subproject. One thing I noticed regarding the ecm tasks is, they seem to get bigger and bigger over time. Each following new batch of workunits was slightly larger than the previous. So far so good, not bothering... :D But the last ones I received are really huge in comparison, I mean significantly larger, lasting at least 100 hours til completion. So I´m just wondering myself if this is intended or if something has gone wrong. I´m not going to abord them (yet), if everything is fine I think I could them finished barely in time. Here is one of those:

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ecm 705.02
Name
ecm_cn_1696699903_2_2246L_977_P1
Status
Aktiv
erhalten
08.10.2023 03:37:02
Ablaufdatum
18.10.2023 03:37:03
Geschätzter Berechnungsaufwand
1.984.551 GFLOPs
Prozessorzeit
07:05:00
Prozessor-Zeit seit dem letzten Checkpoint
07:05:00
bisherige Laufzeit
07:19:34
Geschätzte verbleibende Zeit
42d 05:47:52
Fortschritt
6,420%
benötigter Arbeitsspeicher
6,17 MB
Größe des Arbeitspakets
1,49 MB
Verzeichnis
slots/23
Prozess-Nr.
11420
Fortschrittsrate
0,720% pro Stunde
Ausführbare Datei
ecmwrapper_705.02_windows_x86_64.exe

Thanks in advance if someone can help me out of guessing.
Cheers everyone

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#2 Ungelesener Beitrag von yoyo » 10.10.2023 18:50

Hello,
the ecm workunits are for different math projects, factoring different kind of numbers. So in your example the workunit is from the cn (cunningham numbers). Depending on the predicted computation time, the workunits are assigned to different yafu applications, e.g. yafu-8t needs at least 8 cores and gets workunits which needs more computation power than the yafu-4t (4 cores) app.
At the end sometimes are workunits longer and sometimes they are shorter.
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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#3 Ungelesener Beitrag von DrLen » 10.10.2023 19:31

Thanks for your response, yes, I got smaller ecm tasks aswell by now. Everything fine, I also found the ecm project description site which shows different estimated runtimes dependending on math problem.
Personal head problem solved :)

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#4 Ungelesener Beitrag von JohnMD » 17.10.2023 12:58

Hi Yoyo,
The latest ECM WU's require the same amount of RAM (10GB) as ECM P2 WU's.
Maybe a cross-reference has been corrupted.

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#5 Ungelesener Beitrag von yoyo » 17.10.2023 17:04

Do you have a name of such a workunit?
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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#6 Ungelesener Beitrag von JohnMD » 17.10.2023 17:49

I couldn't get any - I only have 8GB !
The error has been fixed now.
But here is paft of the log -

17-10-2023 15:51:50 | yoyo@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
17-10-2023 15:51:50 | yoyo@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU
17-10-2023 15:51:51 | yoyo@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
17-10-2023 15:51:51 | yoyo@home | No work sent
17-10-2023 15:51:51 | yoyo@home | ecm needs 9536.74 MB RAM but only 7263.14 MB is available for use.
17-10-2023 15:51:51 | yoyo@home | No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.
17-10-2023 15:51:51 | yoyo@home | Project requested delay of 61 seconds

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#7 Ungelesener Beitrag von JohnMD » 18.10.2023 14:22

The "ECM 10GB" problem is back :o

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#8 Ungelesener Beitrag von JohnMD » 18.10.2023 14:23

18-10-2023 15:18:46 | yoyo@home | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
18-10-2023 15:18:46 | yoyo@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU
18-10-2023 15:18:47 | yoyo@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
18-10-2023 15:18:47 | yoyo@home | No work sent
18-10-2023 15:18:47 | yoyo@home | ecm needs 9536.74 MB RAM but only 7218.44 MB is available for use.
18-10-2023 15:18:47 | yoyo@home | No work available for the applications you have selected. Please check your settings on the web site.
18-10-2023 15:18:47 | yoyo@home | Project requested delay of 61 seconds

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#9 Ungelesener Beitrag von yoyo » 19.10.2023 21:25

I think this was a bug in the workunit generator who estimates to much memory for workunits, in this case P1 workunits.
I fixed it and changed memory requirements for those unsent workunits.
So it should be better now.

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#10 Ungelesener Beitrag von Weber462 » 06.11.2023 16:02

Im getting ECM- Fatal Error with computer crashes. What can i do?

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#11 Ungelesener Beitrag von Marty » 26.11.2023 09:52

I think the deadline for those huge tasks is much too short, when i get them they show a estimated computaion time of around 30 days but the deadline is only some days.

Also on a side note: It seems some of the ecm task don't checkpoint too well over the last months, i had it several times where tasks where well beyond 20% and after a BOINC client or PC restart they started from 0%. Is the maybe a problem on my side or is the programm misbehaving?

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Re: ECM - huge task duration

#12 Ungelesener Beitrag von KLiK » 03.04.2024 23:01

Also reporting huge amount of time (~sthg like 30days to completion) for:

- ecm_uc
- ecm_cn

tasks...anybody else have issues with this also?

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