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Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 05.08.2018 23:57
von Jacob Klein
Christian / Michael:

I'd like to start a thread here, that lists tasks that require maintenance. Could you please inspect my initial list below, and take action on them? I ask, because it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to keep track of them, on my lists! Most are ready to be manually validated, and I would be very happy to help with comparing results, should you request it.

Please take a peek,
Thanks,
Jacob Klein

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8/5/2018:

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6029995
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6341782
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 0, 1 (non-VM) Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330712
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Completed, waiting for validation - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed outside of BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330891
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330838
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330840
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330850
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330802
Completed, waiting for validation - Minimum quorum 3, Initial replication 2, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Should we set Minimum quorum to 2, so these can validate?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6341886
Completed, waiting for validation - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 (non-VM) Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330855
Completed, waiting for validation - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 1, 1 Completed outside of BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330939
Completed outside of BOINC - Minimum quorum 2, Initial replication 0, 1 Completed in BOINC, 0 in progress - READY TO VALIDATE TODAY!
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6112706
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330889
Question: Increase Initial replication from 0 to 1, to issue a task for a VM wingman?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=5986207
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6341776
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6010565
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6341779
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6103828
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6341801
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6329152
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6341867
Question: Manually validate results today, comparing results from both tasks?

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 11.08.2018 14:36
von Jacob Klein
Bump - Any response?

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 27.08.2018 00:54
von Jacob Klein
Bump - 21 days, 0 response?

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 30.08.2018 11:07
von Michael H.W. Weber
Jacob Klein hat geschrieben:Bump - 21 days, 0 response?
Didn't I send you a PM many days ago?

Michael.

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 30.08.2018 12:48
von Jacob Klein
Yes, but it didn't come across as a plan to take action, as requested by this post.
Do you have a plan to take action? What is the plan?

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 13.11.2018 15:26
von Jacob Klein
I have now completed all of the tasks that I've been trying to complete outside of BOINC, from prior task failures within BOINC.

Michael:
Now would be a good time for us to cleanup the ~20 tasks that require manual validation.
Any word on when we can tackle that together?

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 14.11.2018 08:20
von Michael H.W. Weber
Hm, I have two long runners in progress and would like to complete these first.

Michael.

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 14.11.2018 08:53
von gemini8
Well, other crunchers have completed tasks and would like to know if the work that was done had results.
I can relate to the feeling of wanting to know about that and I remember clearly that your attitude towards projects with minimal and/or late and/or unsuffiscient response in their forums and minimal and/or late and/or unsuffiscient efforts to solve problems or share information might peak in a forum post on our and/or such projects' forums in which you point out that and why you're unhappy with the situation, and what you think could be done to better this.

Although still uninvolved in crunching due to not getting any tasks (bow to Jacob) I think it would be nice to do validation on a regular base, e.g. after a certain amount of tasks has finished or a certain amount of time has passed, and to announce this procedure as recurring news.
I think a quater-yearly validation interval might be kind of a pulse to show the project's alive and kicking - even if you will just announce that no tasks have been finished.

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 14.11.2018 09:50
von Michael H.W. Weber
gemini8 hat geschrieben:Well, other crunchers have completed tasks and would like to know if the work that was done had results.
Same over here at the project leader's desk: I am still waiting for two tasks to be validated (one from 2013, the other from 2014, by the way). So, at least I am not asking for things I won't live up to, myself... :D
Anyway, we will see, what we can do...

Michael.

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 14.11.2018 14:06
von Jacob Klein
Thank you. I am looking forward to seeing action taken. I agree that quarterly, or even twice-a-year, would be a good goal. When you're ready, I am available to help, any time.
PS: I still have 7 long-runners in progress in BOINC, so I'm not sure why your 2 long-runners make a difference in timing this maintenance.

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 15.11.2018 14:36
von Michael H.W. Weber
Jacob Klein hat geschrieben:...so I'm not sure why your 2 long-runners make a difference in timing this maintenance.
...because I am awaiting these to finish very soon. 8)

Michael.

Re: Request for Task Validation Maintenance

Verfasst: 15.11.2018 15:38
von Jacob Klein
I'm confused as to why you think these have any relation to timing of manual task validation maintenance.

I assume you are talking about these 2, and here are my notes on them:

https://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workun ... id=6330827
- Has no non-VM wingman
- I did not complete it outside of BOINC
- Was completed by an AMD processor, so estimates of completion on Intel are not accurate at all.
- When yours completes, BOINC will validate it automatically. Quorum 2, Replication 2.
- Has no effect on timing of manual task validation maintenance, to my knowledge.

https://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workun ... id=6330943
- Has no non-VM wingman
- I did not complete it outside of BOINC
- Was completed, but with a ridiculously low time (1 week in 2014?) that indicates validation will likely fail.
- When yours completes, BOINC will either validate it automatically, or reissue to another wingman. Quorum 2, Replication 2.
- Has no effect on timing of manual task validation maintenance, to my knowledge.