Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
It's a monster task, that will take a CPU like yours roughly 170-300 days.
Feel free to play with my "BOINC Task Estimate Calculator.xlsx" file:
viewtopic.php?f=75&t=16160#p164693
Feel free to play with my "BOINC Task Estimate Calculator.xlsx" file:
viewtopic.php?f=75&t=16160#p164693
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
If you use the Virtualbox extension kit, you will see the initial forecast run in the console window.JeromeC hat geschrieben:...I was asking about the VM console because when I click the button it will launch CoRD (I also have the extension pack, CoRD being the solution to see the VM console on a Mac, it works very well with vLHC and Atlas, I agree you don't see much but at least you know it's working fine) but I always get to a black screen not showing any output with RNA (or sometimes it seems not to be able to connect to the VM port at all and gets "connecting" forever), so I'm wondering "what's up in there", that's all.
Other measures to check whether an RNA World VM task is still alive and computing is to check that it uses CPU load in the task manager and that it regularly writes checkpoints and continues to increase the run time values - all of which you can observe when you select the task in BOINC and then click on "properties".
Yes, only few people participate under these demanding constraints and there is a bunch of WUs which we have to manually validate because we switched to another system approach at that time which is incompatible with automatic validation.JeromeC hat geschrieben:edit : OUCH ! I saw the only complete calculation of one user, in January 2014 and it's been in pending state since then !!!
Well, it is a only a waste if people start to work on tasks which their system can't tackle. But as said above, mostly, it is not the system but the user who, for various reasons, cause the problem.JeromeC hat geschrieben:also I can see many failure of it are due to "Error while computing" with very long calculation time each time, and not that many "abandoned by user", so still I can see there is a big waste of calculation power over the years...
I must admit, though, that we need to update our FAQ in several aspects.
Michael.
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
Thanks to take the time to answer
It actually works !
I found out I have to type any key being on the blank screen and then I have the display ! It's some kind of blank screen saver in the VM
Does it look OK ? I don't like the "failed" messages I can see there...
However the VBoxHeadless process is eating up until one core and the calculation time + % completed are going up, and so does the time with checkpoints, so it seems ok.
It actually works !
I found out I have to type any key being on the blank screen and then I have the display ! It's some kind of blank screen saver in the VM
Does it look OK ? I don't like the "failed" messages I can see there...
However the VBoxHeadless process is eating up until one core and the calculation time + % completed are going up, and so does the time with checkpoints, so it seems ok.
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
Yes, this is how it should look like.
As long as you take care that you don't overload your system memory and let the machine connect to the internet around once every two weeks, everything should run fine. Also, please do not upgrade Virtualbox or BOINC as long as one WU is running. Some people say, it's OK o do that, but I wouldn't risk it (I know, this indeed is kind of uncool).
Michael.
As long as you take care that you don't overload your system memory and let the machine connect to the internet around once every two weeks, everything should run fine. Also, please do not upgrade Virtualbox or BOINC as long as one WU is running. Some people say, it's OK o do that, but I wouldn't risk it (I know, this indeed is kind of uncool).
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
OK, then I must not forget the "do not upgrade"... it doesn't happen very often, but I have a natural tendency to "let's do it", so I must think about it !
Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
This pending WU has also this error:
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330661
Please correct it.
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result. ... d=14949839
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330661
Please correct it.
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result. ... d=14949839
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
fixedJagDoc hat geschrieben:This pending WU has also this error:
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... id=6330661
Please correct it.
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result. ... d=14949839
Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
I did not upgrade. Calculation error after 40 days. 0 credit.
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result. ... d=14952264
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result. ... d=14952264
Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
...did I say I was crying that day ?
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
I'm sorry. It's heartbreaking when these tasks fail, especially after so much computation that can't be recovered.
These tasks really are MONSTERS. It's taking everything I know, to keep them running smoothly, on my machines. Whenever I need to close BOINC, I first suspend all, wait for CPU activity to stop, then exit BOINC, then wait for all the related processes to gracefully exit. Also, while BOINC is closed, I do weekly backups of all the in-progress RNA World VMs. I have 19, currently.
For what it's worth, looking at your failed task, I see that you had gotten this far:
2,817,246 32d 14:34:06
... and, based on Wingman CPU type and completion time, I estimate that it *would* have taken you:
You All Threads, Wingman All Threads: 7,898,201 91d 9:56:41
You All Threads, Wingman Single Thread: 15,006,582 173d 16:29:42
You Single Thread, Wingman All Threads: 6,172,997 71d 10:43:17
You Single Thread, Wingman Single Thread: 11,728,694 135d 17:58:14
BOINC Measured FLOPS (million ops/sec): 14,509,373 167d 22:22:53
So, you were probably only about 25% done with it, when it failed
You'll have to step up your game, if you want to give another task an attempt
These tasks really are MONSTERS. It's taking everything I know, to keep them running smoothly, on my machines. Whenever I need to close BOINC, I first suspend all, wait for CPU activity to stop, then exit BOINC, then wait for all the related processes to gracefully exit. Also, while BOINC is closed, I do weekly backups of all the in-progress RNA World VMs. I have 19, currently.
For what it's worth, looking at your failed task, I see that you had gotten this far:
2,817,246 32d 14:34:06
... and, based on Wingman CPU type and completion time, I estimate that it *would* have taken you:
You All Threads, Wingman All Threads: 7,898,201 91d 9:56:41
You All Threads, Wingman Single Thread: 15,006,582 173d 16:29:42
You Single Thread, Wingman All Threads: 6,172,997 71d 10:43:17
You Single Thread, Wingman Single Thread: 11,728,694 135d 17:58:14
BOINC Measured FLOPS (million ops/sec): 14,509,373 167d 22:22:53
So, you were probably only about 25% done with it, when it failed
You'll have to step up your game, if you want to give another task an attempt
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Re: Invalid - Completed, can't validate - Too many errors
Hm, I have one here that ran for 11.200 hrs - still going.JeromeC hat geschrieben:...did I say I was crying that day ?
Although it looks perfect, I am somehow concerned something is wrong with it.
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Michael,
I can help you inspect it, and even teach you some things about it, if you'd like. Want to get together on TeamViewer, where you can share your desktop? If interested, send me a PM. I'd like to meet you - Maybe we can voicechat too!
I can help you inspect it, and even teach you some things about it, if you'd like. Want to get together on TeamViewer, where you can share your desktop? If interested, send me a PM. I'd like to meet you - Maybe we can voicechat too!