Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

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Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#1 Ungelesener Beitrag von bcavnaugh » 06.04.2016 17:18

I Have One Task that has been running for MONTHS it seems
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result. ... d=14951045
Now it is stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days.
Time Left cycles between 16:53.34 to 16:53.43 then goes back to 16:53.34.


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Workunit 6330851
Created 22 Feb 2016, 0:05:00 UTC
Sent 22 Feb 2016, 0:07:38 UTC

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#2 Ungelesener Beitrag von Michael H.W. Weber » 06.04.2016 18:59

All normal, just let it run.
I have one task that so far has run for 6080 hrs. Another 700 hrs to go...
As long as the task writes checkpoints and uses CPU time and power, everything should be in place.
If you keep the machine online once approx. every two weeks, it will auto-extend the deadline (although not report this in your client). So, you don't have to take care of anything.

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#3 Ungelesener Beitrag von bcavnaugh » 06.04.2016 22:24

I hope so, my dead line Still Shows the 12 of March 2016.
On the Web Site it shows 24 Apr 2016, 0:07:38 UTC

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#4 Ungelesener Beitrag von Jacob Klein » 06.04.2016 23:57

It took your wingman 271.7 days to complete it, but your processor is probably quite a bit faster.
In fact, I'm thinking of getting that exact processor within a month!
So, just keep crunching, as admin Michael suggests! :)

PS: Since you do have a wingman who completed this task prior, I could work up a detailed task completion estimate for you, if you tell me to.

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#5 Ungelesener Beitrag von Jacob Klein » 07.04.2016 04:09

I spent about an hour, calculating your estimates, based on how long it took the Wingman and comparisons versus your CPU.

They're grouped by "how the Wingman was potentially running", and then within each group, there are 3 estimates based on YOUR setting --
1) you running (all threads) using "use at most 100% CPUs" (with hyperthreading on)
2) you running (half threads) using "use at most 50% CPUs" (with hyperthreading on)
3) you running just a single task.

Notice how your setting influences the performance within each group!

Basically, if you're running: (half threads) using "use at most 50% CPUs" (with hyperthreading on)
... then I'd expect the task to complete within about 200-250 days of CPU time.

Full details, including all calculations, below!
Hang in there!!

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bcavnaugh's CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz
Cores / Threads: 8 / 16
Multiplier and Turbo: 30, 3/3/3/3/3/3/5/5
Passmark score (all threads, total): 16,002
Passmark score (all threads, per thread): 1,000 (16,002 / 16)
Passmark score (single thread): 1,988
Passmark score (half threads, per thread): 1,874 (1,988 * 33 / 35)
Passmark score (all threads, per thread, worst case): 937 (1,988 * 33 / 35 / 2)
Measured FLOPS: 4945.56 million ops/sec

Wingman's CPU
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz
Cores / Threads: 12 / 24
Multiplier and Turbo: 27, 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/4/5/6/7/8
Passmark score (all threads, total): 17,435
Passmark score (all threads, per thread): 726 (17,435 / 24)
Passmark score (single thread): 1,664
Passmark score (half threads, per thread): 1,426 (1,664 * 30 / 35)
Passmark score (all threads, per thread, worst case): 713 (1,664 * 30 / 35 / 2)
Measured FLOPS: 3395.03 million ops/sec

               Name: cmsvm2_GA-p[e20-30MB_Lin64f]_1_Oryza-sativa-Japonica-Group_CM000143.lin.EMBL_RF00028_Intron_gpI_1349111823_59024
           Web link: http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workunit.php?wuid=6330851
       Web workunit: 6330851
     Wingman status: Completed: 9 Jan 2015, 15:42:32 -- Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz -- CPU Time: 23,471,880 -- 271d 15:58:00

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Estimates for bcavnaugh to complete:
================================================================================================

Wingman running (single thread):
  482d 10:40:53 -- 41683253 s -- (1,664 / 937) * time
  241d 5:20:27  -- 20841627 s -- (1,664 / 1,874) * time
  227d 9:21:23  -- 19646483 s -- (1,664 / 1,988) * time

Wingman running (half threads, per thread):
  413d 10:35:46 -- 35721346 s -- (1,426 / 937) * time
  206d 17:17:53 -- 17860673 s -- (1,426 / 1,874) * time
  194d 20:47:49 -- 16836469 s -- (1,426 / 1,988) * time

Wingman running (all threads):
  206d 17:17:53 -- 17860673 s -- (713 / 937) * time
  103d 8:38:56  -- 8930336  s -- (713 / 1,874) * time
  97d 10:23:55  -- 8418235  s -- (713 / 1,988) * time

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#6 Ungelesener Beitrag von bcavnaugh » 08.04.2016 18:55

Thank you for all the Replies,

So it is still at the same 98.765% and Time Left cycles between 16:53.34 to 16:53.43 then goes back to 16:53.34.
This now is the ONLY Project or Task running on this computer so I am wasting a lot of money running only this tasks.
I will keep it running a little longer, what really bothers me about this is the cycles between 16:53.34 to 16:53.43 then goes back to 16:53.34.
It is as if it is in a never ending loop and not really doing anything like it has a scratch like on an LP (vinyl record) and cannot go on to the next track.

I turned off HT on the CPU?

I running VirtualBox 4.3.6, Should I upgrade to VirtualBox 5.0.16-105871?

In VirtualBox can I give it more then 1 CPU and Memory as well?
The Current is 1 CPU and 3072 for Memory.
Can I Change it to 4 CPU and 8192 for Memory?

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#7 Ungelesener Beitrag von Jacob Klein » 08.04.2016 19:13

The RNA World VM app is reporting that the progress is "98.765%", every minute, even though the VM has progressed. So, it is normal to see strange behavior in the "Remaining (estimated)" column - in fact, you should never look at that for RNA World VM tasks.

For your particular task, if you don't intend to let it run for the 200-250 days of CPU Time necessary to complete it, then it doesn't make sense to "run it a little longer", as you suggest. Also, it would NOT help to turn off hyperthreading, so far as we know, but I believe it does help to set "Use at most 50% CPUs" when hypthreading is enabled that way you try not to put 2 threads onto the same core. And, I would NOT recommend upgrading VirtualBox in the middle of a task, either - it could make the task error. And I would NOT change any of the VirtualBox settings for the VM, either - it's already optimal, and could make the task error.

So, if you want to finish it, you can verify it is progressing by making sure Task Manager shows that it's using CPU, and that the "last modified" date of slot\shared\progress.txt file is changing. And then, you can wait for the full time necessary for it to complete. I gave you the best estimates I could, based on your wingman (which you're lucky to have!)

- Jacob

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#8 Ungelesener Beitrag von bcavnaugh » 08.04.2016 23:23

I will run as long as the rig can run.
I would think the any Tasks that take 200-250 days of CPU Time necessary to complete should be separate from BOINC.
Meaning that RNA VM should not be part of BOINC. No where does it say task can take up to a Year to complete.
Once if ever this year this task completes it will be my last RNA Task.

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#9 Ungelesener Beitrag von Jacob Klein » 08.04.2016 23:44

To my knowledge, RNA World used to have tasks that varied in length quite a bit. The longest tasks are called "Monsters", and there is even a "Monster Hunter" achievement page dedicated to them on the main site
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/top_monsters.php

Before there was a VM app, the user had to run these tasks with no interruptions/restarts, in order to complete them successfully, since the app that's used cannot support checkpointing. We are, in fact, LUCKY to now have a VM system where the tasks can checkpoint!

But yeah... Perhaps on the project's main page, they should do a better job of indicating that the current set of tasks are Monsters! :)

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#10 Ungelesener Beitrag von Michael H.W. Weber » 09.04.2016 08:55

What I don't understand is, why this is the only task you can run on your system.
Is it a single core?
Does it have only 4 GB of RAM?
If both is not the case, then there is no grounds to have your computer run only one task.
You may very well sign up for another project and have other tasks run in parallel.
bcavnaugh hat geschrieben:I would think the any Tasks that take 200-250 days of CPU Time necessary to complete should be separate from BOINC.
Meaning that RNA VM should not be part of BOINC.
How do you come to that conclusion?
It is your decision to select whatever projects you like to support.
And for the projects you like, you may further select the types of sub-tasks you would like to support.
With RNA World there is a small check box that allows you to disable the VM tasks if you find these not suitable to be run on your machines.
Remember: These WUs are the world record holders in long-term-running and there are quite a number of people out there who EXCLUSIVELY like to run just these tasks. :D
bcavnaugh hat geschrieben:Once if ever this year this task completes it will be my last RNA Task.
Well, that would of course be a pity since it is just a cool project.
But maybe you rather decide to disable VM tasks in the future and everthing would just be fine?

Michael.
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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#11 Ungelesener Beitrag von bcavnaugh » 20.04.2016 02:15

This REALLY SUCKS
Run time 4,916,941.05
CPU time 4,901,778.00

http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/results ... e=6&appid=

14951045 6330851 22 Feb 2016, 0:07:38 UTC 20 Apr 2016, 1:07:53 UTC Error while computing 4,916,941.05 4,901,778.00 --- cmsearch VM (VirtualBox) 1.0.2 v1.17 (vbox64)

All this time running and for nothing. As far as why I only had one task it because the others failed as now this one has.
No more for me.

Never changed stuck at 98.765%
Time Left cycles between 16:53.34 to 16:53.43 then goes back to 16:53.34.

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Re: Task Stuck at 98.765% for 3 Days Now!

#12 Ungelesener Beitrag von bcavnaugh » 20.04.2016 02:26

Michael H.W. Weber hat geschrieben:What I don't understand is, why this is the only task you can run on your system.
Is it a single core?
Does it have only 4 GB of RAM?
If both is not the case, then there is no grounds to have your computer run only one task.
You may very well sign up for another project and have other tasks run in parallel.
bcavnaugh hat geschrieben:I would think the any Tasks that take 200-250 days of CPU Time necessary to complete should be separate from BOINC.
Meaning that RNA VM should not be part of BOINC.
How do you come to that conclusion?
It is your decision to select whatever projects you like to support.
And for the projects you like, you may further select the types of sub-tasks you would like to support.
With RNA World there is a small check box that allows you to disable the VM tasks if you find these not suitable to be run on your machines.
Remember: These WUs are the world record holders in long-term-running and there are quite a number of people out there who EXCLUSIVELY like to run just these tasks. :D
bcavnaugh hat geschrieben:Once if ever this year this task completes it will be my last RNA Task.
Well, that would of course be a pity since it is just a cool project.
But maybe you rather decide to disable VM tasks in the future and everthing would just be fine?

Michael.
VM tasks Are all RNA has.

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